Romero's Butchers secrets revealed

Gunshow20·7/3/2016 in GTA Vice City

Big edit to this post, after almost three years:

Originally this post contained some information about the origin of the Romero building's textures using some guesswork from the textures themselves. However, after reflecting on it for some time, I realized that I was basically completely wrong in my findings, so I felt obligated to remove that particular finding, as it was a dead end. That, and having a picture of some random building is weird as hell. Anyways, enjoy the rest of this thread, which actually details with stuff that is more believable, even if some of it is far fetched.

TL;DR Original post was incorrect, read replies for good stuff.

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Funeraria Romero House No. 252 Little Haiti Giant Spiders

Gunshow20·7/6/2016

That door is underground anyway. Perhaps they could have a system of tunnels down there. Rooms for killing and torturing, etc. And of course, a tunnel that leads to that manhole so they can delieve the organs. Of course this is just a theory.

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Xalbador Gliese 581C·7/6/2016

Gunshow20 wrote:
That door is underground anyway. Perhaps they could have a system of tunnels down there. Rooms for killing and torturing, etc. And of course, a tunnel that leads to that manhole so they can delieve the organs. Of course this is just a theory.

Tunnels were meant to be placed in the game, I mentioned the proof in my video as well, so it is entirely possible that Rockstar just left the remaining stuff i.e. basement door, manholes and didn't add detail.

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TheIndependent40·7/6/2016

I have another theory! There is an oriental food restaurant near the Butcher's, right? And I just realised, that the restaurant was buying human organs for their food! I heard somewhere, that in China (which is one of oriental countries, probably), they eat a soup made of unborn kids! Bleh! So, they could make the food with human organs!

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Gunshow20·7/26/2016

I am going to necobump this thread with some relevant info. This is what we know:

A giant spider was found in a church in Milan in 1751.
Eglise[...] is a church in Little Haiti that is French, not Italian.

Well, this is what I found: the full story.

In the original giant spider story, a church is also mentioned in Paris where the giant spider was also sighted.

Eglise[...] is a French church, so there is a connection.

The story claims that the spider's corpse was sent to the Emperor of Austria in Vienna.

Milan was under Austrian control in 1751, until Napoleon (a frenchman) conquered it in 1796.

So from this we can assume:

Eglise is actually home to a giant spider, because it matches the location (France) and the circumstances.
The other spider story in Milan is also historically correct, but it is unrelated to Vice City.

See:

Duchy of Milan
List of rulers of Milan (Habsburgs = Austria)
Spider story

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Gunshow20·7/26/2016

The same book that categories the giant spider sighting in Milan also has one about a large spider that attacks birds in the Caribbean islands and the southern USA just underneath it. It says that the spider's body is at least one and a half inches long, or bigger. This implies that the spider has a very, very large leg span.

You may say that the spider is the Goliath Birdeater, however this is wrong as the Goliath is only native to the Guyana region and some parts of northern Brazil. Therefore, it cannot be this.

The next likely suspect is the Huntsman spider, the only other spider of comparable size to the book's creature, that also happens to live in the southern US and Caribbean islands. Well, this is likely as the book describes it as moving fast, attacking birds and lizards, and hiding in nooks and crannies, just like the Huntsman in real life.

This does not debunk the myth though, in fact it makes it even more powerful. As seen here, a good comparison to a fully grown, adult Huntsman is about the size of a US penny. A US penny is less than an inch in total. Therefore, the mythical spider mentioned would need to be at least twice as large as a normal Huntsman.

Spiders of this size actually live in Laos, Vietnam and other south Asian states. This means that they would be nowhere near the Caribbean or Florida.

Vice City and Florida both exist at the same time (as seen in the Move Over Miami billboards in Little Haiti.) With the inclusion of the Gator Keys initially, it implies that Vice City is located somewhere near the Florida mainland and the Caribbean sea. It just so happens that Huntsman spiders live in Texas, Florida and the Caribbean.

It is possible that the giant spider in Vice City is just a very large huntsman, and not the mythical creature mentioned in Milan.

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Xalbador Gliese 581C·7/26/2016

Yeah, but the relation was derived from Stoker's reference, not pretty sure but I'll go through some documents to see if something is related to this creature.

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Xalbador Gliese 581C·7/26/2016

Just found something interesting but this internet was getting limited again and again.

The Hairy Beast from Hell (the King Kong movie) is inspired from the 1957 movie, Monster from Green Hell, which was based on a gigantic spider made out of an abnormal wasp caused due to toxic jet chemicals. Again, we are getting closer and closer.

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TheIndependent40·7/26/2016

Xalbador Gliese 581C wrote:
Just found something interesting but this internet was getting limited again and again.
The Hairy Beast from Hell (the King Kong movie) is inspired from the 1957 movie, Monster from Green Hell, which was based on a gigantic spider made out of an abnormal wasp caused due to toxic jet chemicals. Again, we are getting closer and closer.

Nicely found!

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NoirDetective·7/26/2016

I never though this myth would be this deep, you guys have done a great job!

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BuzzerBee24·4/24/2018

Gunshow20 wrote:
The same book that categories the giant spider sighting in Milan also has one about a large spider that attacks birds in the Caribbean islands and the southern USA just underneath it. It says that the spider's body is at least one and a half inches long, or bigger. This implies that the spider has a very, very large leg span.
You may say that the spider is the Goliath Birdeater, however this is wrong as the Goliath is only native to the Guyana region and some parts of northern Brazil. Therefore, it cannot be this.
The next likely suspect is the Huntsman spider, the only other spider of comparable size to the book's creature, that also happens to live in the southern US and Caribbean islands. Well, this is likely as the book describes it as moving fast, attacking birds and lizards, and hiding in nooks and crannies, just like the Huntsman in real life.
This does not debunk the myth though, in fact it makes it even more powerful. As seen here, a good comparison to a fully grown, adult Huntsman is about the size of a US penny. A US penny is less than an inch in total. Therefore, the mythical spider mentioned would need to be at least twice as large as a normal Huntsman.
Spiders of this size actually live in Laos, Vietnam and other south Asian states. This means that they would be nowhere near the Caribbean or Florida.
Vice City and Florida both exist at the same time (as seen in the Move Over Miami billboards in Little Haiti.) With the inclusion of the Gator Keys initially, it implies that Vice City is located somewhere near the Florida mainland and the Caribbean sea. It just so happens that Huntsman spiders live in Texas, Florida and the Caribbean.
It is possible that the giant spider in Vice City is just a very large huntsman, and not the mythical creature mentioned in Milan.

You mention that large spiders can be found in some Asian countries. Could this have something to do with the Oriental restaurant? Could they have smuggled the spider or something?

(Edited by BuzzerBee24)

What do you think?